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The Queen Angelfish is a bold and dazzling aquarium fish, a "queenly" specimen indeed!
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I disagree with many of the conclusions, I got a extra large queen angelfish which is 6-7 inches in a 30 gallon half circle quarantine tank: 100x flow, two Maxi Jet 1200 in circulation mode facing downward 1300GPH each, using sure grip magnets, left and right corners, top, and back. Two Maxi jet 400's as power heads on the surface to the left and right of Reef Octopus Lx2000s skimmer running Ozone and a controller. Two watts per gallon actinic 03 and 10K, 20watts at night of actinic 03 on the floor behind tank as a night light (less stress which kills them) Variance for ORP probes are 21 to 24 millivolt tested in a 450mv solution, so running at ORP of 425 is really about 400mv which is one percent bacteria, no phosphates or nitrates, 'none'. I dose Red Sea foundation, colors, energy, and algae management for phosphate and nitrate, and replace 1/2 cup of carbon each day for residual ozone. The LX2000s it not supposed to run with any back pressure so the carbon bag is carefully put on upper shelve of water return coming up from the base of skimmer (above blue sponge compartment). I had to keep adjusting flow, find something that worked in a 27 high, 27 wide, half circle. When I finally ran Maxi Jet 1200's in circulation mode on top left and right corners downward, the ozone ran longer but the water was properly circulating as with returns from a sump which I do not use. The Red Sea X-Nitrate and X-Phosphate was the last addition, it says it prevents nuisance algae. I also had to use NO ICH marine for months, finally doubling dose, dosing twice a day, probably because of skimmer running Ozone and Carbon. It finally worked. Brine shrimp plus and anything from Ocean Nutrition it will eat (frozen, pellets, and flake food). It's in a tank with mushroom corals, encrusting corals, a baby trigger fish, damsel, and one small and large turbo snail, no problems.
I had a extra large one years ago (Queen Angelfish) in a 110 gallon community tank, lots of live rock, bright lights, lot's of flow and skimming, I used Ozone with a controller at 390mv. I tried 5 inch large adult Queen Angelfish and both died (LiveAquaria.com), terrible experiences. I finally went to circulation pumps (Maxi jet 400, 600, and 900) downward flow 1000GPH, left and right on a fifteen minute light timer (500GPH), and one Maxi jet 600 as a power head (160GPH). This and a Red Sea Prizm skimmer as a Ozone Reactor with a controller, 'and' a HOB Reef Octopus LX2000S rated for a 150 gallon where needed to keep the water clean in a 'quarantine' tank (six weeks). So far, so good, ORP 390MV (adjusted for probe reading in 450mv solution), live rock with mushroom corals, two brown encrusting corals I never wanted (the color was supposed to be purple (LiveAquaria.com again), but the 6-7 inch Extra large Queen Angelfish seems very good. I acclimated for two hours to tank water specifications, left tank lights off and ran Actinic 03 (two 20 watt fixtures as a lunar light) just on ground facing up in front and behind tank. At then end of twelve hours of 10K and Actinic 03 light it ate some, 2nd day, flake food, pellets, Frozen brine shrimp, marine cuisine, and a marine mufti-pack I had. The flake food I want to replace (fast) with Ocean Nutrition formula two, I have there small pellets, and ordered formula two frozen, brine shrimp, no one has 'angel formula' from Ocean nutrition, I asked to be notified when in stock. Yes, the fish could die from stress problems, but unlike 5 inch fish that where a train wreck for me, this 6-7 inch large Queen Angelfish is off to a good start. Ideal water conditions maintained, lighting, live rock hiding places, it ignores a baby Picasso Trigger fish and a damsel in the tank. The first two did not seem healthy, at every turn they started breathing heavy, they don't always survive acclimation, never mind stress (hiding places, lighting, night lights), never mind they diseases associated with stress and malnutrition (breathing problems, fungal infections). I think you have to create ideal conditions that can be maintained, and what you thought was ideal may change quickly, lighting, flow, skimming, reactors, Ozone, they are only so many ways you can guarantee high quality water is sustained long term. I had to get backup equipment for many aspects of filtration, flow, even lighting, or run dual paired solutions that if one failed there was a 2nd (yes with 1/2 the flow).
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I had to increase colliding linear flow to dissipate any trace of residual ozone I could not smell in air or water. I had to run colliding flow constant instead of on a fifteen minute timer basically (downward/top/back, and left and right back/top), and change 8 spoonfuls of carbon in Prizm Media basket return every two days. I noticed residual ozone affecting fish briefly (only the extra large Queen Angelfish). It's like 88x flow, 7 inch fish doesn't mind circulation mode power heads at all. I tried Aqua Medic Turbofloter HOB skimmer, it's too low quality, thin pipes, 6mm tubing, not Ozone safe, and has really large and heavy pump, the media baskets overflow and do not force returned water through media. 'But' that Red Sea Prizm skimmer Deluxe is 87 dollars at Pet Mountain. Just replace air tubing with silicone tubing from Ultralife direct, 'Ozone Safe' is the term you need. I wasted a lot of time, resources, and money (299.00 plus Ozone cap, media bags, which got you to 399.00), you win some, and lose some, business as you know is basically a con (CBS 60 Minutes). I've also been using Marine 'NO ICH' each day for a week or more, the Queen Angelfish looks really good. I started to rinse frozen food in a net in cold water (less skimming after), and tried almost everything Ocean Nutrition makes (flakes, pellets, and frozen foods). I'm glad something worked, in the end you built a very tough mini reef, great water filtration. For years I avoided Reef Octopus, they do have some very good solutions. They just made a Ocean Reactor, but don't want to run a sump which in time 'always' floods your home. In really large tanks you have no choice, you need the flow and filtration capacity (skimmers and reactors).
Clarice Brough -
Angelfish can be so touchy... some great info RJH Thanks for sharing your equipment and your experiences. I'm not planning on getting an angel of this size right now, but may in the future, and your info is super.
After a month of 'NO ICH' Marine for parasites, I had to account for LX2000s skimmer (HOB Reef Octopus) running Ozone, I just double dose and did it twice a day. You can remove carbon running Ozone and a controller, and you can't guarantee water quality without it. The Extra Large Queen Angelfish is doing fine with two encrusting corals, live rock with mushrooms, and a baby Picasso trigger and Damsel. I ended up with a temperature controller for a surface computer fan, two Maxi Jet 1200's (1300GPH in circulation mode) downward top/back/left and right, they needed 'sure grip' magnets, LX2000s, two Maxi 400's at the surface as power heads, left and right of skimmer creating surface flow. I'm using Red Sea Foundation, Colors, Energy, and Algae Management. The water low level tests show no Nitrate or Phosphate, I change a 1/2 cup of carbon on upper shelf of HOB skimmer return each day, Ozone injected through silencer with silicone tubing from Ultra Life Direct. The Queen is eating brine shrimp plus (washed in a net), Ocean Nutrition pellets and flake food, tried them all, it eats them all, they sure can eat. Very serious filtration is needed, not a 300 gallon, it needs the filtration of a 150 gallon tank, with 100x flow, consistent temperature, 2 watts per gallon Actinic 03 and 10K, 'and' a 20 watt Actinic 03 night light, not kidding.
I personally have a Queen (Juvenile), and its beautiful coloration makes it my favorite fish.
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Jodie Hall Sr -
The Queen angelfish is certainly a beauty. It was one of the first salt water fish available because they could be collected in the keys. I caught one for myself in about 1972 and it lived 6 years in a 55gal tank that had no living rock or coral. It did well from 1.5" to 10" on a diet of frozen brine shrimp or protozoro, freeze dried tubifex worms and flake food. This fish and several others that I kept for a long time eventually became blind, quit eating and died. From this experience I drew a hypothesis that we tend to have too much light over our aquariums so we need to provide lots of dark alcoves for the fish. They will come out to eat! That's just my idea. Good luck.
I wish I could help but I can't, I'm ownly 9 years old. I pray they get food.
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They are right it is a pretty fish.
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