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Roxy - 2010-03-09
We just added a powder blue tang to our tank and our coral angel killed it within three days! It has no trouble with the other fish. I'm a bit apprehensive to add any new fish to our tank in case he kills them. Is this normal?

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  • Timdeb Feeser - 2011-12-08
    What is the size of your tank,I to have experienced this problem and the answer to mine was there wasn't enough space in the tank.
  • Fishnerd2000 - 2014-04-14
    I'm just guessing that first of all you probably need a bigger tank and possibly should have added the coral beauty last.
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Aboozar Bahmani - 2013-09-22
Having a bright yellow color, this fish gives your tank a nice look. Had the fish for one week so far it has not accepted any food, but picking on micro algae. hope I can keep it

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JFK - 2013-08-13
I disagree with many of the conclusions, I got a extra large queen angelfish which is 6-7 inches in a 30 gallon half circle quarantine tank: 100x flow, two Maxi Jet 1200 in circulation mode facing downward 1300GPH each, using sure grip magnets, left and right corners, top, and back. Two Maxi jet 400's as power heads on the surface to the left and right of Reef Octopus Lx2000s skimmer running Ozone and a controller. Two watts per gallon actinic 03 and 10K, 20watts at night of actinic 03 on the floor behind tank as a night light (less stress which kills them) Variance for ORP probes are 21 to 24 millivolt tested in a 450mv solution, so running at ORP of 425 is really about 400mv which is one percent bacteria, no phosphates or nitrates, 'none'. I dose Red Sea foundation, colors, energy, and algae management for phosphate and nitrate, and replace 1/2 cup of carbon each day for residual ozone. The LX2000s it not supposed to run with any back pressure so the carbon bag is carefully put on upper shelve of water return coming up from the base of skimmer (above blue sponge compartment). I had to keep adjusting flow, find something that worked in a 27 high, 27 wide, half circle. When I finally ran Maxi Jet 1200's in circulation mode on top left and right corners downward, the ozone ran longer but the water was properly circulating as with returns from a sump which I do not use. The Red Sea X-Nitrate and X-Phosphate was the last addition, it says it prevents nuisance algae. I also had to use NO ICH marine for months, finally doubling dose, dosing twice a day, probably because of skimmer running Ozone and Carbon. It finally worked. Brine shrimp plus and anything from Ocean Nutrition it will eat (frozen, pellets, and flake food). It's in a tank with mushroom corals, encrusting corals, a baby trigger fish, damsel, and one small and large turbo snail, no problems.

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RJH - 2013-06-17
I had a extra large one years ago (Queen Angelfish) in a 110 gallon community tank, lots of live rock, bright lights, lot's of flow and skimming, I used Ozone with a controller at 390mv. I tried 5 inch large adult Queen Angelfish and both died (LiveAquaria.com), terrible experiences. I finally went to circulation pumps (Maxi jet 400, 600, and 900) downward flow 1000GPH, left and right on a fifteen minute light timer (500GPH), and one Maxi jet 600 as a power head (160GPH). This and a Red Sea Prizm skimmer as a Ozone Reactor with a controller, 'and' a HOB Reef Octopus LX2000S rated for a 150 gallon where needed to keep the water clean in a 'quarantine' tank (six weeks). So far, so good, ORP 390MV (adjusted for probe reading in 450mv solution), live rock with mushroom corals, two brown encrusting corals I never wanted (the color was supposed to be purple (LiveAquaria.com again), but the 6-7 inch Extra large Queen Angelfish seems very good. I acclimated for two hours to tank water specifications, left tank lights off and ran Actinic 03 (two 20 watt fixtures as a lunar light) just on ground facing up in front and behind tank. At then end of twelve hours of 10K and Actinic 03 light it ate some, 2nd day, flake food, pellets, Frozen brine shrimp, marine cuisine, and a marine mufti-pack I had. The flake food I want to replace (fast) with Ocean Nutrition formula two, I have there small pellets, and ordered formula two frozen, brine shrimp, no one has 'angel formula' from Ocean nutrition, I asked to be notified when in stock. Yes, the fish could die from stress problems, but unlike 5 inch fish that where a train wreck for me, this 6-7 inch large Queen Angelfish is off to a good start. Ideal water conditions maintained, lighting, live rock hiding places, it ignores a baby Picasso Trigger fish and a damsel in the tank. The first two did not seem healthy, at every turn they started breathing heavy, they don't always survive acclimation, never mind stress (hiding places, lighting, night lights), never mind they diseases associated with stress and malnutrition (breathing problems, fungal infections). I think you have to create ideal conditions that can be maintained, and what you thought was ideal may change quickly, lighting, flow, skimming, reactors, Ozone, they are only so many ways you can guarantee high quality water is sustained long term. I had to get backup equipment for many aspects of filtration, flow, even lighting, or run dual paired solutions that if one failed there was a 2nd (yes with 1/2 the flow).

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  • RJH - 2013-07-02
    I had to increase colliding linear flow to dissipate any trace of residual ozone I could not smell in air or water. I had to run colliding flow constant instead of on a fifteen minute timer basically (downward/top/back, and left and right back/top), and change 8 spoonfuls of carbon in Prizm Media basket return every two days. I noticed residual ozone affecting fish briefly (only the extra large Queen Angelfish). It's like 88x flow, 7 inch fish doesn't mind circulation mode power heads at all. I tried Aqua Medic Turbofloter HOB skimmer, it's too low quality, thin pipes, 6mm tubing, not Ozone safe, and has really large and heavy pump, the media baskets overflow and do not force returned water through media. 'But' that Red Sea Prizm skimmer Deluxe is 87 dollars at Pet Mountain. Just replace air tubing with silicone tubing from Ultralife direct, 'Ozone Safe' is the term you need. I wasted a lot of time, resources, and money (299.00 plus Ozone cap, media bags, which got you to 399.00), you win some, and lose some, business as you know is basically a con (CBS 60 Minutes). I've also been using Marine 'NO ICH' each day for a week or more, the Queen Angelfish looks really good. I started to rinse frozen food in a net in cold water (less skimming after), and tried almost everything Ocean Nutrition makes (flakes, pellets, and frozen foods). I'm glad something worked, in the end you built a very tough mini reef, great water filtration. For years I avoided Reef Octopus, they do have some very good solutions. They just made a Ocean Reactor, but don't want to run a sump which in time 'always' floods your home. In really large tanks you have no choice, you need the flow and filtration capacity (skimmers and reactors).
  • Clarice Brough - 2013-06-18
    Angelfish can be so touchy... some great info RJH Thanks for sharing your equipment and your experiences. I'm not planning on getting an angel of this size right now, but may in the future, and your info is super.
  • RJH - 2013-08-12
    After a month of 'NO ICH' Marine for parasites, I had to account for LX2000s skimmer (HOB Reef Octopus) running Ozone, I just double dose and did it twice a day. You can remove carbon running Ozone and a controller, and you can't guarantee water quality without it. The Extra Large Queen Angelfish is doing fine with two encrusting corals, live rock with mushrooms, and a baby Picasso trigger and Damsel. I ended up with a temperature controller for a surface computer fan, two Maxi Jet 1200's (1300GPH in circulation mode) downward top/back/left and right, they needed 'sure grip' magnets, LX2000s, two Maxi 400's at the surface as power heads, left and right of skimmer creating surface flow. I'm using Red Sea Foundation, Colors, Energy, and Algae Management. The water low level tests show no Nitrate or Phosphate, I change a 1/2 cup of carbon on upper shelf of HOB skimmer return each day, Ozone injected through silencer with silicone tubing from Ultra Life Direct. The Queen is eating brine shrimp plus (washed in a net), Ocean Nutrition pellets and flake food, tried them all, it eats them all, they sure can eat. Very serious filtration is needed, not a 300 gallon, it needs the filtration of a 150 gallon tank, with 100x flow, consistent temperature, 2 watts per gallon Actinic 03 and 10K, 'and' a 20 watt Actinic 03 night light, not kidding.
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Nicholas - 2010-01-13
Hi,
I purchased a Bicolored Angle about 2 weeks ago, the Angel looks great and swims around and looks happy too! But he does not eat!
I tried flake food, fresh brine shrimp, frozen brine shrimp, freeze dried shrimp, roman lettuce etc... Is this normal?
What can I do?

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  • Anonymous - 2010-07-27
    Sometimes this can be tough. Continue with the variety until the Angel catches on....
  • cody - 2013-07-06
    I read that you can direct some sunlight to your tank and start some algae blooming and they will eat that to get them started. My tank already had some in hard to reach areas and when I introduced mine that was the first thing he went for then later started at other things as he settled in.
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briteny17 - 2008-02-29
This i so awesome, it helped me with my project!

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Apurva - 2005-11-29
One of my favourites! And one property you cant forget about him is he is very very intelligent. He even identifies the owner and will eat out of his hand. Try kissing him through the glass and he will kiss you back! Very good fish to have!

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isaiah hammond - 2010-05-02
This fish is in my opinion the most beautiful and vital fish there is.

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Chad - 2006-11-27
Bought a 3" Potters Angelfish about a month ago. He's in a 135 gallon tank with a 30 gallon sump and a 30 gallon refugium. About 200 pounds of live rock and 100 pounds of live sand. Tank mates are: Passer Angel, Koran Angel, Blonde Naso Tang, Kole Tang, Yellow Tang, Sohal Tang, Volitans Lion. He was rather expensive and I was a bit nervous putting him in a tank with much larger and bolder fish. Especially after reading that they can be rather shy and rarely come out of hiding. He proved to be the exact opposite. Almost always out in the open, often grazing on the live sand. He is a beautiful fish and adds a gorgeous splash of vivid reddish orange and purple. One of my favorite and strongest fish. Farely rare and expensive but well worth it.

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Rick - 2012-11-08
I bought my Emperor Angelfish about 2 months ago and since day 1 he/she has been happy. Its a 2 inch juvenile that rooms with a coral beauty/Bi-color Angelfish, Yellow tang, 2 clowns, 2 Blennys, and a engineer/Firefish Goby. 150 IBS of live rock with plenty of hiding spots and plenty of flow/filtration with only Rodi water changes. The only downside to this scenario is that while my Juvenile leaves my soft/hard corals alone, its only in a 75 gallon reef tank which I will have to upgrade to 150 Gallon sometime soon! Have tests for everything you could think of, took a while to master keeping levels accurate however the satisfaction of figuring it out shows in my fish and my corals! Just hoping Juvenile still will mature and turn to adult colors in this scenario before I eventually change to 150 Gallon in the next year or so.. Completely love this Emperor, lots of personality already!!

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  • Collecting Clownfish - 2012-11-28
    Glad to know you will be putting him in a larger tank and you are watching water parameters! Good for you! So many people buy these beautiful fish and wonder why they die in only 2 to 4 years. It is all due to stress and small tank size. If you can afford closer to 200 gallons that would be even better but minimum really is 180 gallons.... old literature seems to undersize tanks for these big fish, but you seem to really love your angelfish, so just something to think about! (being big eaters and poopers a larger tank is actually easier to keep balanced too and I am all for that with my own tank!) Oh, the coloring they get as adults is more intense if the tank is very large from what I understand. Have fun!!
  • Rick - 2013-04-20
    I'm asking for trouble! So far everything is still great, my juvenile emperor is as happy per my last e-mail along with another roommate.. lol. Not my fault, friend of mine went crazy and bought a Juvenile Blue angel after only having his set up running for 3 months and his Juvenile Blue angel almost died however I put him in my quarentine tank for about 1 week and he looked good then I got stupid and decided to put him in my main tank and to my surprise there was no aggression towards my Juvenile Emperor (same size) or my Dwarf angels/Yellow Tang, I know in time this will change.. My wife is going to kill me but I must upgrade to a bigger tank very soon instead of a couple years.... ughhhhhhh... I actually run 2 skimmers and a Aquafuge2 refugium on the back of my 75 gallon reef tank and all levels are near perfect! I also do 5 gallon water changes every week.. However that being said, my days are numbered for this beautiful set up I have spent so much time on.
  • Rick - 2013-05-11
    My upgrade is done. I have recently transferred all my livestock over to a 210 Gallon aquarium. My juvenile emperor & Blue angel will be happy now! I also still have a yellow tang, coral beauty, bi-color angel, pygmy angel, neon & orchid dottyback, engineer goby, firefish goby, 2 clown fish and many different corals. Now I need more live rock!!!
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