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I have a yellow nape, Dudley, whom I've had for over 20 years. Like many other of your stories mine too was cute and friendly for his young years and now only likes me. Since I am his caregiver that is OK, but I too must watch him closely as he will bite just when I am not expecting it, and then he laughs like crazy when I yell. Anyway, recently he has begun picking his chest feathers out. I have not changed his diet or living conditions. I have read that this means he is unhappy, could it be something else or does it always mean he is bored and needs more attention? I am thinking of taking him to the vets but would rather try other ideas before upsetting him with a visit to the doctor. Any ideas?
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He needs to be checked out by the vet to rule out any physical problems that may be causing him to pluck (nutritional, skin, parasites, infections, etc). That's first. If there are not physical issues, then, you need to play detective and try and figure out what has changed that is causing him to be anxious/upset. For example, has your schedule changed? Are you having to spend less time with him? Did you move, have there been physical changes to the apartment? Social changes (new significant other/ change in roomate going out more, being home less, schedule changes). Does Dudley like to bathe? Frequent bathing can really help feather problems provided there is no underlying illness. Are you sure Dudley is plucking? Unless he's got all the colored feathers out and only gray down (or skin) is left it just might be a moult. Good luck. I'm sure that the vet can help. Make sure it's an avian vet! LYNNE
I don't quite understand, all the comments I have read. Sounds like everyone is having problems with their yellow naped amazons, biting and grumpy. Is it bad training/socialising/disciplining or should I just avoid amazons? This web site sings their praises: The Yellow-naped Amazon has just about the best reputation a bird can have as a pet and a wonderful companion. Please explain! Please let me know as I am thinking about purchasing: email@example.com Also I checked out the comments for the yellow crowned, all six comments were positive; what is going on!
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Charlie Roche -
I truly understand what you are saying. Amazons make great pets. Some Amazons (just like us humans or different breeds of dogs) are much easier to be around than others. The Nape, the Double Yellow Head (to name two) have a tendency to want to be the BOSS. Panamas and Yellow Shoulders to just name two are comfortable with their human being boss and are not as territorial. Please realize that a person many times write Animal World for the exceptions - not the general every day thing. A person might write when they get a brand new pet, or are thinking about it(such as yourself). A person might write because something sad or funny happened with their pet. They might write because for some reason out of nowhere they are having problems with a pet. I go back Amazons are great pets and great fun. Mine (Peppy) just got married (mated) last year and had babies. He was 27 and flew in my bedroom every morning and climbed in bed and said "get up ma". I had to brush his beak with toothpaste, put a little lipstick on him and then head for breakfast for over 26 years. He was a Panama Amazon. However, Peppy did not like my mother. I would say Grandma is coming over and Peppy would growl and run and hide and say "Peppy be bad bird". Hysterical and true. I could pick up my Yellow Shoulder Amazons and pet them even when they were on eggs. No matter what it is a human, a dog, a cat a bird, you are not necessarily going to get along with it 24 hours a day. A person has to learn their birds body language, their vocalizations, their talking etc.
If the head is down and the feathers are flat and wings are out - the bird is saying "I have a bad headache and leave me alone". They also go through puberty, hormonal stages and just odd little quirky things. People write when something is different. So there are zillions of people out there very happy with their Amazons. Different breeds of Amazons have very different personalities but sometimes there can be a glitch but the vast majority love their talking friend. Make sure whatever kind you choose that you get it from someone who hand feeds - gently and lovingly.
Max Gilbert -
Thanks for the long and thoughtful post. Perhaps you should add which ones like to be boss to the encyclopedia.
Max Gilbert -
I have found a breeder who has orange wing,blue nape and yellow crowns can you help me make a decision which will suit me. I am at home all the time( not able to work due to chronic fatigue)my parents are too most of the time (retired) we have a large house which is attatched to a converted barn(so there is quite alot of space) I have not looked into wing clipping but if I decided not to clip his wings I could fly him in there. Chances are I would clip him as I heard they are easier to discipline and do not think they are boss and It would be my first parrot. Do you have a point of view on that subject? I would love to be able to let him fly. I would want him to be my companion but still accept the family and hopefully like meeting visitors. I would hope even after he is sexualy mature he would still want to be my companion. I would like him to be a good talker but I think friendlyness and character are higher on the list. so which do you think? or maybe you need some more info? I am going to a the Stafford Parrot show on Sunday so if you think there is an amazon which would suit me better than those three let me know and I will look out for a breeder.
Charlie Roche -
Amazons in nature have a strong pair bond so as a pet, they are usually very much attached to one person. However, some amazons will tolerate other people a whole lot better than others. The new little gal (your a guy so get a gal - many will say that) is coming into your home and there are 3 people already living there. That is the envioronment it will know and will accept. Picking out an amazon. My sincere advice would be to let the amazon pick you. If you were going to get a puppy and there were 6 in the litter, the one you take home is the one that runs up to you and gives you kisses etc. Birds react in a very similar way. Let the little gal pick you. Take home the one that lets you hold her, tries really hard to communicate and looks at you. One that makes soft little silly noises and not one that growls. You will know. Let the bird pick her mate -- that will be you. Clipping wings - there is much controversy on this and for good reason. I had a female umbrella and her wings were clipped when I purchased her. She tried to come to me and because her wings were clipped, she fell and she broke her back. I have never clipped any birds wings or purchased a bird with clipped wings after that. I am very careful in that I take a baby or young bird and will sorta show them unsafe things like windows and walls. I show them this many times as I don't want them trying to fly into a window. I sorta just toss them 6 or so inches onto the bed or sofa showing them how to land and safe places to land. Most pet birds and any of the amazons I had would fly down and then walk. I figured people walk so they walk. Strange but true. My birds all walk around. Enjoy your shoe. Lots of luck and let her pick you.
Max Gilbert -
If I don't have a personal recommendation. What questions should I ask to evaluate a breeder? To see if he knows his stuff and treats his birds right etc.?
Charlie Roche -
A young bird is not going to have the shininess and color of an adult bird until after the first major molt. You can ask how and from what age the bird was hand fed. The younger the better and you want someone who says they fed with a spoon or a syringe. You do not want someone who tube fed. There is no real handling in tube feeding. Ask if the breeder pets his birds or how many he raises. See if you actually like the breeder. Are they pleasant and do they seem to like their birds. Bottom line is you are going to have to tell by the birds behavior. There is absolutely no reason at all under any circumstances you should not be able to hold, handle and hug a hand fed baby bird. There is no reason you should not be able to lay your little finger in the baby birds mouth without him bobing his head up and down like he's sucking on a bottle. There is no reason you should not be able to pick up and hold a hand fed baby bird and just give him a little kiss on the beak. Now you can't just grab the little guy and go fast. You need to speak softly and gently hold him and go slow. If you are nervous, sit down on the floor with the baby bird placed inbetween your legs. Gently pet the top of his head. (many amazons do not like their back pet so stick to the top of his head). Amazons make a funny baby sound da da da daaaah bobbing their head when they are content. Even a baby amazon will growl if you go to fast or scare him. You want an amazon preferably under the age of 6 months. It is just easier. So you want this years babies. If you can not pick up the bird or the breeder tells you that you can't handle the bird - go to the next breeder. It is better to go to the breeders home where the birds are raised (if posible) so you can see the nursery - see all the babies and how they act. is it clean etc. Breeders sometimes will tell you that thy don't want you handling a bird cuz of transmission of diseases possible at a bird show. You can take hand sanitizer with you so the breeder can't justifiably complain. Truly, most often, a bird will pick its owner. A bird will bond with certain people almost instantly. If you are holding that little bird and you know in your heart that you would do anything to keep this little guy - it is probably the right bird. The bird will try to taste you via putting his tongue on your finger cuz they need to see, smell and taste you. A fella came to my home and he wanted a bird. I had macaw, amazon and cockatoo babies. We went through the NURSEY and here are various ages of all kinds of baby birds. One amazon just sorta grabbed this guys shirt and would not let go. He so gently (and he was a huge guy) put his hands around this little amazon and held on. This amazon wasn't even weaned yet. The guy and bird just bonded. There is absolutely no reason you should have any problems handling a hand fed baby bird. I would strongly recommend that when you take him home, you feed him little tidbits with your hand. Cheerios are great for this. You can also get some baby peaches or applesuce and let the bird eat off the spoon. Feed him scrambled eggs with your hand. let him eat dinner with you and it's fine to let him eat off your plate. Messy but fine. The bird will want you.
Max Gilbert -
Just wanted to say a big thank you for speed of answering, your passion for animals and amount of time and detail you put into your posts :)
Charlie Roche -
AHHHH thank you. I love birds - actually all animals and sure have raised and had a few. I love it when they can go to a wonderful home - and I know yours is going to be great. Amazons are so expressive -
Charlie Roche -
Have you found your amazon yet? You need to talk to her. If you converse, they will learn to speak but they will be able to converse as well.
I gave my Panama (Peppy) a piece of chicken and he said "what is"
I said it "is chicken"
Peppy said "chicken good".
I said "chicken good" and showed him as I tasted just a little
Peppy took it and bit it and said "chicken good" and let out a big belch (my daughter did the belch thing).
Few weeks go by and I give Peepy a piece of chicken and he says "what is" and I say "chicken"
He just grabbed it and said "chicken good" and belched.
Now without the piece of chicken and him being able to eat it, the whole thing doesn't make sense to him (or to a human). Use words, feet, beak, bell, wood, pizza (Peppy would stand right on top of the pizza box and yell "MINE"
They vocalize before a year but really get into talking about year 2. Peppy would be the phone or the kids coming home from school and then say "GOTCHA"
Oh, please don't give this wonderful, personable bird such a bad reputation. Amazons in general tend to have strong personalities. But just like most birds, you should learn how to handle them and especially how to read their body language. Parrots are very intelligent, some with the intellectual skills of a 2-3 year old and and some with the emotional ability of a 5 year old!
I am with the Florida Parrot Rescue and have dealt with various types of birds. With all of them, and I treat them all as individuals with their own personalities and characteristics, I have to learn what they want and don't want, by learning to read their body language.
Research Amazons because they do have times of the year when they MIGHT not want you to handle them (sometimes because they are molting and sometimes because it is their season to mate). Additionally, any bird that you get when it is young, must be socialized. The more you take your bird out with you, let others handle it, and just interact with it, the better bird you'll have. They are definitely a huge commitment, specially since they live up to 60 years or more!
Additionally, training your bird makes the bird bond better with you and helps you to understand your bird better as well.
Lastly, always consider adopting from a Parrot Rescue Group. These birds live so many years, that they tend to outlive their owners. Changes in lifestyle also displaces birds so that they then need new homes. When you adopt from a rescue, you generally know the traits of any given bird because most rescues use volunteers who foster the birds in their homes. When you choose a bird, they can honestly tell you about the birds traits and help you make an informed decision on the type of bird you ultimately adopt. But you also must research their personalities to assure that your personality will mesh with a strong minded Amazon.
Amazons are Amazing!
Amazons can be amazing companion animals, but they are not for everyone. Very few people are suited to being the 'pet human' to an amazon parrot. First, they are very, very intelligent, and they need a 'flock' that can help them stay interested, emotionally and intellectually engaged and challenged. This means lots of attention, playtime, toys, and games and a lot of physical affection. They are more emotionally demanding than even a dog. Parrots are very expensive, not only to buy, but to maintain. The birds are expensive, and caging is expensive. Beyond the initital investment, it costs approximately $3,000.00 to $3500.00/year to keep a pet parrot (vet care, fresh and pelletted food, supplies, and toys, etc). All birds, but especially parrots are very noisy and extremely messy. If you like things to be always neat, clean and quiet, a bird is NOT for you. Birds bond very very strongly to members of their human flock, and the relationship can be wonderful, and surprisingly loving and intimate. If you let the BIRD pick you out, you're likely to be more happy with the fit. Remember though, that it's a comitment to take seriously. Parrots are monogamous and mate for life. They live a LONG time and any 'breakup' could be very traumatic for the bird. Often, if a bird looses a loving devoted human, the bird can die from stress and depression. Remember, a parrot is at most 3-4 generations removed from the wild. They are not a domesticated animal but are a tame WILD animal. Even the most tame, polite, gentle, affection parrot can and WILL bit if frightened, threatened (or it's significant human is threatened) or injured. If you have a parrot, you have to assume that you WILL be bitten at least once, at some point. It isn't personal, and if you feel you can't deal with being bitten or nipped, better not to get a pet parrot. Parrots NEVER belong on shoulders. They eyes are to close to the beak and serious eye injury is a real risk. If however, you don't mind noise and mess, have time to devote to another of god's creatures and can respect the parrot's intelligence, and devote the time and attention needed to keep it mentally stimulated, happy and engaged, and believe that you financially assume this responsibility for your life and for the life of the bird, then a parrot may be the perfect companion animal for you. I know that it was the right choice for me! Good luck. Think about test driving a bird by bird sitting for a parrot.
Hello everyone i have a 15 year old yellow naped amazon I just got it 6 months ago from a shelter guy and that he was selling the bird so I buy him and he doesn't wanna talk or say a word. I try everthing to teach him some world in the last 6 months but still he doesn't repeat anything. Can someone give me a answer to what I can do so he can learn how to talk.
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Charlie Roche -
How about we start with just communication. You make the sounds or repeat the sounds your feathered guy is saying. He may talk or maybe no one ever talked to him so he doesn't. Let's give him an idea of what it is. When he makes sound - you try and make the same sound back and say 'good boy' When he makes a sound - you repeat the sound and say 'HI' etc. Try that. Try to make sense with him. If you just say 'want a cookie' and there is no cookie - that doesn't make sense. But if you say 'do you want chicken and you have chicken - that does make sense. Start by communicating and making his sounds - then just talk and sing and see what sounds he likes to make.
kathy wood -
I have had a yellow nape for 15 years. When I got him he was 15 years old. He says alot of words none that I taught him. Last week he said hi Bart hi Bartie thats the dog I got 2 years ago. You never know good luck.
Hello there. If you MUST have a talking bird, you should buy a bird that already talks. Personally, I would love my feathered buddy even if he never said a word. My bird Pepito Grillo, was a talker, but it took 3 months for him to talk to me after he came to live with me. Just be patient, consistent, very gentle and let him hear people talk all the time. If you go out, leave talk radio or the TV on... If you can and he's clipped bring him with you on walks, to gatherings with people and try to join a bird club, and see if you can 'introduce' him to other birds that talk. Some birds talk, some don't. Try to look at talking as 'the icing on the cake'. Give him lots of love, attention, gentle handling, praise and treats, and play with him and talk to him all the time and maybe he'll have something to say to you. Good luck.
Hello to everyone, I purchased my yellow nape when he was an egg. His name is Stubby. Do to a flying accident from his early years he lost a nail. It took a few weeks before I could hold him without gloves. For 20 years, we were pals. He loved the dogs, cats and the 3 of the 4 kids. He would drive in the car, ride in the hood of my sweat shirt. My daughter would get in his cage with him. I remarried about 9 yrs ago and my husband soon became disabled and does not work and is home all day. I cannot even walk in front of his cage without him trying to attack. The only one that can touch him is my husband. If he has him out of the cage and I come near the room he will bite my husband. My daughter now 27 can not even come in the house if the cage is open. He is 25 yrs old now, does anyone know if he can become friendly. Oh I meant to add he will let me feed him on the weekends that I make him pancakes, the only time I can put my hand in the cage.
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H. W. McDaniel -
We are the owners of a Yellow-naped Amazon. She was virtually abandoned to live with chickens. My wife and I have made it a firm rule to spend equal time with her. We are both retired, live in Hawaii where Babe can be outside all the time. We carry her about while doing yard chores or leave her in a tree. She loves us both equally which surprised us after hearing the tales of spouse abuse. On the other hand, one or the other of us spend most of our day with her, reading on the deck or whatever. She will bite me when strangers come in and she gets too excited. And, she takes immediate likes or dislikes to people. We have made another rule to have her in her cage when folks drop by.
I can only suggest that you start spending time with Stubby; even if it is only in the same room. Take it slow. I always let Babe make her overtures. Curtailing your husband's time with him might be of some help. I have found that expressing disapproval by tone of voice is helpful in stopping unwanted behavior. We seriously considered renaming Babe 'Chainsaw' after some demolition work on the deck but now things have mellowed out. Spring still brings on some ripping and tearing, tho'.
Katherain Smith -
My husband has had a yellow nape for 25 years. He takes him out of his cage regularly and plays with him giving him lots of attention with me in the room. I stay at home and have tried to become Charlie's (the amazon) friend too......but....bad move. I handed him a cheerio which we give him occasionally for a treat. He threw it out of the cage. I thought, "Oh, he must have dropped it!" Duh. I tried again and again and the exact same thing happened. The last time he took a "hunk" of my finger. This is going to sound as if I'm talking about a person.....He is very opinionated, likes certain foods one day and not another. He adores my husband eventhough I'm with him all day, clean his cage (carefully) and Charlie is virtually silent until my husband gets home from work. When I'm close to the cage, he stalks me, growls, makes a barking sound and follows me around as I clean up and change the papers. He adores my husband who puts him on his shoulders, hangs him upside down, spreads his wings, plays and talks with him and the bird adores him. If he gets loud and my husband walks towards him to lightly tap him on his claw he immediately makes this sound as if he is being strangled. It is hilarious. My husband had him for years before I came along but I just wanted to warn others...no matter how nice you are sometimes the amazons seem to be bound to one individual. So watch out. Oh, this bird was raised with the children and as soon as he matured began aggressive behavior. I've done everything to try and win him as a friend....no luck! I feel like putting up a sign..."BEWARE, BIRD IN THE HOUSE!" I enjoy all of the comments. Thank you. Reading them has made me feel better about myself. I thought there was something wrong with me and I was getting a real complex. Thank again. Kathy
My reply is to Katherain Smith.... you need to know that yellow nape amazons bond with only one person. No matter how hard you try to relate, that bird will be bonded to only one person and feel threatened by anyone else. Just accept it.
BWT.... is he really your "husband"...?
Why would one want such a pet? To each his own! Like owning fish.
Glenn Smith -
What kinda crazy birds do you people have lol. My yellow napped is very social and mostly loves men. Loves attention and talks a little too much. All in all, he/she is the perfect friend to me and very happy to have him or her.
Charlie Roche -
Many amazons, more frequently than not, will pair bond with one particular human. This one has with your husband and feels she (probably a gal) has to protect your husband from all others. If you get to close to your husband - yes, the bird will bite the husband in displaced possessiveness. The gal is your husbands bird and keeps him company - let him just be your husbands bird. The behavior is usually worse when spring is coming (breeding season) and might get a little better when summer comes. You could get yourself a little conure - some other bird that you love.
Birds are individuals. Amazons especially have likes and dislikes and it's impossible to figure out what attracts them to one person or another. I'd consult the vet or a behaoviourist, but whatever the birds very favorite food/activity/game is, let the LEAST favorite person engage in that 'treat' with the bird. If birdie love to bathe, the least favorite person(s) should bathe her, etc. If he is agressive with your daughter and bites, then he probably needs to be caged when she comes around. If she's not clipped, clipping may GREATLY improve her attitude. You need to make sure he knows you're in charge, and if she still has her pilots license, that's hard to reinforce. Also, height is an issue. If her cage is very tall and she's always looking DOWN on you, get stools so you are taller than her. With birds, height is power!
I have Yellow Naped Amazon. If not breeding and they lay egg how long do I leave the egg under the bird before I take it away?
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Charlie Roche -
She will possibly lay two additional eggs for a clutch of 3. They normally start incubating the eggs afer the last egg is laid. Let her sit the eggs till she gets bored with them or for 30 days. When you remove the eggs - I'd give her a new toy.
Good advice and also, feed momma bird lots of calcium rich foods. If she lays continually, consult the vet. A hormone shot may be needed to break the egg laying cyle so she doesn't deplete her bones.
I am 20 years old I have a yellowed naped amazon. I have had him for two years. A friend of mine got him two years ago, and they couldn't hold him touch him absolutely nothing. They rescued him from an abusive environment. Well anyway they had him for a few months, before I moved in. After a yr in a half of talking to him everyday, I was finally able to scratch his head through his cage and was able to let him out without coming after me. I just moved back to my moms which is a two hour commute from where I was and I brought him with me. He was a hoot the whole way here he was talking up a storm lol. But ever since we got him situated in the house he has been pressing his stomach onto his birch and litteraly sitting on it. I don't know if that's a good sign or a sign to take him to a vet. I'm very worried I have no idea how old he is but he seems to be ok. We have been here for almost three weeks now I have only let him out of his cage once because I know he will go after my mom lol. But he is so funny he knows every swear word in the book which I did not teach him. lol He woof whistles he says hello ho goodbye who dat where you going and some others that he mumbles that I cant understand lol but he is definitely my best friend and I want the best for him and I want to make sure he is ok. And I would like to know how to teach him not to bite!!!!
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Charlie Roche -
What is a birch? You say he presses his stomach into his birch.
I think you mean 'perch'. If a bird is quiet, sitting low, and acting out of sorts it could be ill (or, it might be chilled and just trying to keep it's feet warm. Remember, parrots are 'prey' animals and are contstantly aware that they can be someone elses dinner, and therefore the HIDE SICK very effectively. They will work very hard to appear well even if they are sick, as any weak bird is driven from the flock in the wild. If you even remotely susupect the your bird is under the weather, you need to get the bird to the vet ASAP, and make sure that he has an annual 'chick up'. Also, you should get to know birdies poops and how heavy he/she is because the first sign of illness is weight loss. I weigh my bird every week on a gram scale, and if he looses weight more than 2 weeks in a row, I consult the vet. I think birdie needs a chick up... Good luck!
Not biting... that's hard. Just be firm, and do birdie boot camp (step up training, and rewarding good behaviour with treats. IF a bird chomps down on you and they're on their perch tell them NO in a loud voice and don't pull away (which will hurt more and could tear your skin) but push back at them and if necessary, push them off the perch. If they are on your hand and bite, lower the bird and gently shake them onto the floor (safely) and tell them no... and BAD BIRD... NO BITING. Your vet can also help you futher, but basic bird boot camp is helpful. Also, try not to handle the bird when excited (when they are shouldering, strutting, pinning and shadowboxing) If you have to move them, use a stick or perch. An excited Amazon is simply not capable of excersising self control! Don't even think about touching them bare handed at times like that. You'll soon learn their body language.
I have a 14 year old yellow naped amazon; she is a really sweet bird that I have had since she was a baby. She is very loving and never bit anyone, but whenever she sees babies or small children, she goes crazy. Her eyes dilate, tail feather spreads back and forth, and squawks very loudly. She really can't be handled or touched because she will bite. Any ideas of why she gets so crazy around babies/kids?
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Sounds like birdie is simply excited and is experiencing 'Amazon Overload'. This is common and there really isn't anything you can do about it other than to take care that the bird doesn't bite the children (or you) and that the kids don't hurt or tease the bird. He may grow out of it, especially if the bird is still young, but some things just excite certain birds. My YNA gets excited when my friend Susan or my mother visits and the only thing to do is give him a special toy and shut him in his cage. He looses all self control... poor thing! If she is out of the cage he will bite, and it's usually me who nees the bandaid... Just one of those quirky amazon things.... a birds gotta be a bird. Keep in mind that an amazon parrot is at MOST 4 generations removed from the wild. they aren't domesticated, they are still a tame wild animal! Good luck
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raul garcia -
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I have a yellow nape thought to be a male but not...laid three eggs but I find that she is quite aggressive towards men. She is totally bonded to me and I can do most anything with her. She even does kissing sounds for me. Her name is Coco and I adopted her 12 yrs ago. She is my little darlin I love her immensely but she wants to attack my boyfriend in the worst way....talk about jealous!!!!!
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Charlie Roche -
Most amazons become very bonded to one person. Some are good with the whole family but most seem to pick a 'mate' and then are real possesssive of that mate. Yep, they get jealous.
Carri Williams -
I have the same problem with my Parrot (Baby) She is 33 this year I have had her since I was 7 she was 1. She is EXTREMILY possessive of me. We are not sure if she really is a she?? If I am not around she is nicer to everyone.
I inherited my yellow naped amazon last yr, but have interacted with her for about 5 yrs. No one knew for sure if she was male or female but we all assumed she was a she..well Baby is about 25yrs old and she just night before last laid her very first egg...she is so in love with me, my husband says she loves him also but shes in love with me...did that cause her to lay an egg after all this time..I do spend all day with her and we are very close and hands on, she wouldnt allow her former owner to do any of the things we do with her. She allows me to hold her upside down and she has bitten me many times...I just keep on with her and even tho it HURTS I just keep at her...I took the egg away and put it up and she doesnt seem to miss it..what would have caused her to lay an egg after all this time?